In trying to get Linux on my og Surface Go lately, it’s not easy or straightforward.

Maybe if you use Proton VPN on KDE it could need to pull in some Gnome packages. Which isn’t a problem. I use Proton VPN on KDE but I just install it from flathub to keep it simple, so I couldn’t say for sure.

I was confused, but I think they might be asking why Veracrypt isn’t available as a flatpak

Automatic updates are there with the right distro. Which highlights the need to look around for the right distro for the use case.

Example being Opensuse Aeon - automatic updates - doesn’t even tell you it’s happening, just pops up “your system was updated” out of nowhere

Automatic rollback - if an update broke something you would never know, at boot the system will pick the previous snapshot with no user intervention

As far as the user is concerned you just have a working system; that it is the entire goal of that distro

I didn’t know systemd-boot loader could boot snapshots. Do you know if there’s a guide to set this up?

I’m not using tumbleweed anymore for a few reasons, but my system does have snapper taking snapshots, and I’m using systemd-boot loader instead of grub. But I don’t know how to make those work together.

I don’t know, I’ve never looked for that function. Just that I’ve used Varia and it was not good.

I use gabut from flathub now, which again uses aria2 backend but does download things reliably.

I tried it for a while, but downloads kept stalling and I’d come back hours later to find a corrupt file.

I’ve used other download tools with aria2 as a backend and didn’t have any issues.

Sounds like bootlicker talk to me.

Absolutely. Look at Aeon. I turn it on and do what I need to do.

Later I might see a quick pop up that says system has been updated. It didn’t require intervention. It didn’t even tell me it was happening, it just informed me after the fact.

If anything broke, I would never know because on the next boot if something failed it just uses the previous snapshot to boot. As far as I am concerned the system is working just like it always has.

But even as recently as this week I see people saying: immutable? No don’t make it a bad experience for them! Just recommend Ubuntu for newcomers! >:/

Yes, but he also commented that the rust infrastructure isn’t super stable.

The point is that that Linus responses were not as overtly simplified and predictable as lung suggested.

Openbox was my favourite. I learned Linux on a throwaway old Toshiba Satellite using fluxbox. Then I moved on to Crunchbang (probably the most popular Openbox distro ever) until it died off.

I’ve always been waiting now for labwc to become more usable as a Wayland *box replacement.

But in Australia you CAN get an old Thinkpad, so…

Kalpa needs to attract more developers to keep up with Aeon’s pace. I understand it is usable as a daily driver, but it’s not just a one to one mirror of Aeon with Plasma on top.

https://sfalken.tech/posts/2024-06-08-how-do-aeon-and-kalpa-relate/

Richard Brown is all in on Aeon along with whatever contributors are helping him. Stephen Falken appears to have no one helping him work on Kalpa unfortunately. I disagree with Richard’s stance that Kalpa shouldn’t exist, but I do wish there were some capable people able to help that project.

I don’t mind using Gnome anyway, it actually does solve some networking issues that I’ve always had with Plasma. (Dolphin not handling it well whilst Gnome Files has no issues)

I’ve been using Opensuse Aeon just over a year and it’s done great.

Tumbleweed user for the last 5 years, and dealt with a few issues over that time. The usually infrequent update break that comes with rolling release. And the Opensuse ‘Patterns’ started, which I loathe and it’s a disaster to try to disable them every install.

Aeon hasn’t had any of those issues. It’s been very much a “turn it on and get to work”.

I’ve generally had less issues with Aeon than Tumbleweed - like certain flatpaks not crashing.

But downsides as I see them:

I’m not a gnome guy. It’s fine though, I don’t hate it. But some people can’t stand it.

I had a bit of trouble running wine. Something about the default security policy. There’s a known workaround.

I took it as a question of which distro looks nicest out of the box (like, which distro manager has made real effort to make something particularly nice looking).