• akilou@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 month ago

    The difference is their business model is privacy. Google’s business model is advertising. I’m Proton’s customer, but advertisers are Google’s customers.

    • misk@sopuli.xyzOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      I don’t trust them in general but I’m certain Google doesn’t use my passwords for advertising.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        Sure, but they also don’t really have a business interest in keeping your passwords safe. If they have a breach, you either move your passwords or you don’t, they don’t see a financial hit. If Bitwarden or Proton have a breach, they lose paying customers to their competitors. They have to be better than their competitors to get your business, Google just bundles it with the rest of their stuff.

        Also, Google is a massive target. They control the most popular browser, so there’s a ton of value in exploits. Bitwarden and Proton are competitively smaller, so the attacks are likely to be less sophisticated vs attacks against Chrome. The surface area of attack for a separate password manager is also quite small, so it’s comparatively easier to secure.

        So yeah, that’s why I use something outside my browser. I use Bitwarden for my password manager (I intend to self-host it soon), and it works well.

      • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        The real issue is that Google stores your passwords in plaintext. That’s why they survive a password reset, or apparently now can be shared with others. Proton and Bitwarden encrypt your passwords so that nobody but you can access them, or at least in the case of Bitwarden, you can share with other users using pre-shared keys.