• Opisek@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      Except Telegram doesn’t use TLS :) They use MTProto.

      This is not me endorsing Telegram. I’m just pointing out your mistake. Telegram has other issues but it definitely does have transport encryption.

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        20 days ago

        The above commenter said that their end-to-end MTProto protocol is not enabled by default.

        Defaulting to just using transport encryption like TLS on a messaging app isn’t sufficient in 2024.

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          20 days ago

          MTProto is not end-to-end. MTProto is their obfuscated client-server transport encryption.

          What the commenter above is referring to is Telegram defaulting to saving your messages on the server in plaintext. You can use a “secret chat” which enables end-to-end encryption, but that is separate from MTProto.

          Your sentiment is correct though. Messages should not be visible in plaintext to the server.

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              19 days ago

              You’re right, it is misleading. There are different “flavours” of MTProto. See here:

              https://core.telegram.org/mtproto

              This page deals with the basic layer of MTProto encryption used for Cloud chats (server-client encryption). See also:

              • Secret chats, end-to-end-encryption

              • End-to-end encrypted Voice Calls

              (The major difference is simply whether the server and client share a key or two clients)