• PP_GIRL_@lemmy.world
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    Electric cars don’t solve every problem with private vehicle ownership but they’re certainly a step in the right direction. Most EVs average an equivalent of more than 100mpg versus most ICEs, which are around 30-40. You can also power an EV with renewable resources. This isn’t possible with ICEs (yes, I know you can power certain diesels with biofuel, but it’s horribly inefficient).

    “Buying a new car is worse than keeping an old one” is an incredibly situational phrase that has a million exceptions for so many people.

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      “Buying a new car is worse than keeping an old one” is an incredibly situational phrase that has a million exceptions for so many people.

      Yeah, but this still holds a lot of water. More often than not people buy a new car to have a new car or even worse they buy one specificcally because they are misguidedly trying to lessen their carbon footprint.

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        People aren’t just buying new cars for fun in a recession. The point is people will need to buy a new car at some point. Either because they now need their own car or their old one isn’t viable. At that point, choosing an electric car is a step in the right direction. That’s why this post is stupid, it’s acting like buying an electric car is just a frivolous purchase and not acknowledgeding that when someone needs to buy a car there is a choice to be made.

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            Just because I wanted to be sure I am not being mistaken for some reason I just googled a couple different search terms for motivations to buy a new car.

            None of the results is even close to confirming your ludicrous quote from above.
            So again I am baffled by how confidently wrong you keep on posting here.

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    Remember kids, if you’re not solving climate change entirely in one single step, there’s no point in trying.

    Seriously, what a brain dead argument lol

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    The main issue in the push for electric cars, is that we’re pretending that we can fix things with no lifestyle changes.

    And for the richer people, that’s probably true. But there’s a big chunk of people for whom the electric car revolution means no more personal transport.

    I accept that, but we need to invest in public transport exponentially more than we are doing. It needs subsidising up the wazoo so people outside the inner-city bubble can still get around. By just pretending that electric cars will reach affordable levels for the poorest, we’re inviting trouble further down the line when they can’t use their petrol cars any more.

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    We will never consumer our way of of a problem capitalism created. And public transit is nearly always a better solution to spending on car infrastructure.

    … but… If you’re gonna buy a new car anyway, they have the potential to cause less climate impact (although they’re still environmentally devastating in other ways). As power generation becomes cleaner, so too do the cars. ICE cars are already about as environmentally friendly as they’re gonna get, but EVs still have a lot of potential improvement (both in emissions and in things like material mining).

    Although the tire microplastics is gonna get worse.

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      They already do cause less of an impact than ICE powered cars. Anyone can Google the information that shows that even though battery production is unclean, fossil fuel production over the life of a car is worse.

      If the EV last for more than about 5 years, it was worth it.

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        5 Years… This is part of the problem… What happens to this car after 5 years, it gets “recycled”. The metal does and the rest goes into a landfill to gas off. Micro plastics are just part of it, the gasses are a major polluter too. The reason you can own and keep your old car is that they were built to last, our current disposable society is the problem. Electric cars are dirty! Let go dig massive hole in the desert, lets separate the wanted materials out with lovely chemicals, then we can throw it all away. So clean… Right to repair, build to last, and strong public transport is the way to go.

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    This post is fucking idiotic. Without electric cars climate change CANNOT be addressed.

    Nothing is ever as simple as a single solution. Mouth breathing OPs need to get that through their thick stupid skulls

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      Without electric VEHICLES* climate change cannot be addressed. Expensive new electric cars are not the solution. Electric public transport, retrofitting old vehicles, making current vehicles last, and people adopting two wheeled electric solutions will be the solution. Cars like Teslas are awful and buying one shouldn’t be considered making a difference.

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    Double overly reductionist takes with no positive contribution. Congrats! This is crap.