Short version of this interview is that nothing is changing, other than they’re going to be asking a flat fee “$5-20” for the app, rather than relying on donations. All donation platforms have been closed. However, if you choose not to, as Louis says “that’s between you and your God”.
Project will remain AGPL and thus can be forked at any time. FUTO maintains the trademark of Immich name and logos.
Weird feeling about this. $5-$20 flat fee sounds like a lower price than what I’d imagine donations would bring. I imagine most who would donate would give at least $5-20, and then some would subscribe monthly. The dev team is obviously gonna get funding from Eron for now which would likely be higher today than what they get in donations.
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grayjay is not foss
The only thing I can see in their License that would make it non-free is the non-commercial redistribution part of it, which is not that bad
Which might be there to prevent legal troubles from YouTube.
it is. It prevents people from forking it an making their own versions and then distrubuting it. That is not foss,just source availible.
It doesn’t though? IANAL but as far as I can tell you can fork, modify and redistribute it as long as you provide the source code to your users.
It’s AGPL-3.0 so… https://www.tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-affero-general-public-license-v3-agpl-3-0
That guy was talking about grayjay, a Client to follow creators on multiple platforms at the same time. Grayjay isn’t licensed under AGPL, but instead it uses the FUTO Temporary License. It technically still counts as source available, but I think the NC-Part is okay to have. AGPL would be nicer though especially bc of this.
Me too, I subbed for monthly.
The one thing I can see FUTO can do is provide capital up front for developers to work which could be recouped over time as more users begin to use and pay for the software. That makes sense and in a competent, not neoliberal economy, the government might have a fund doing something like that. What I’m a bit worried about is that this might not be all Eron’s up to. But again, we’ll take his money when he gives it, so long as the work is open source. And we’ll see where we end up in a few years. 😅
Germany has a fund like that, GNOME just recently got a grant of about 1M Euros to improve features and provide better accessibility
I’m currently in the process of moving my family off of Google photos to Immich. Both my partner and I pay Google at the moment because we have to due to amount of photos. And that’s only going to increase.
Immich is great but there are also a lot of bugs. The shared albums that my wider family use for example is very buggy. So paying an amount that I might have paid Google for those bugs to be fixed while self hosting I would be very happy with I think.
However, I was thinking of attacking those bugs myself and contributing bug fixes to the project. But what happens now that it’s a commercial product essentially? Will they still accept code from pull requests from outside their organisation? Will any devs who spend a lot of time contributing get anything for their work? E.g. if I was providing time and code for a product then had to pay to use it that might seem a bit mean.
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FUTO in Romanian sounds a lot like “fuck her”…
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And a letter away from Futa, which has a whole other world of a meaning…
Curiosity got the better of me, so I searched what it means. I did come across another interesting phrase…
… searches for “Futa” on company laptop…
Ah yes, the Federal Unemployment Tax Act
What is Futo? Their website says absolutely nothing besides their “company values.”
What is their business model?
Who is running it?
How do they earn money to give out?
What do they ask in return besides hoarding the trademarks?
Flat fee is always good, but I am always skeptical about these sort of completely opaque, altruistic companies that often turn into not-so-altruistic companies after they see more profit capabilities.
What is their business model?
Selling free software without enforcing it.
How do they earn money to give out?
See above.
What do they ask in return besides hoarding the trademarks?
Cash.
I saw it comming. The development was on steroids the last months, so it was all arranged. This piss me off.
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Something that was once free and adequate, is now enshittified with “improvements” to entice me to pay.
If the open source release is adequate then you can just continue using it… Or fork for your needs.